In this episode of Iron and Empathy, host Drew Moldenhauer sits down with international keynote speaker, bestselling author, and leadership expert Anne Bonney> to explore why courage isn’t about being fearless—it’s about learning to navigate discomfort. Drawing from a lifetime of embracing change, Anne explains how the stories we tell ourselves shape our emotions, our relationships, and ultimately our ability to lead.
From emotional intelligence and difficult conversations to self-awareness and resilience, Anne shares practical strategies for recognizing emotional triggers, challenging assumptions, and responding with curiosity instead of reaction. Whether you’re leading a team or simply trying to become more intentional in your daily interactions, this episode offers actionable tools for building stronger relationships and growing through life’s inevitable uncertainty.
Go check it out and let me know what you think!

